When you’re feeling unsure of where you want your career to go next, it’s helpful to remember that just about everyone has been in your shoes before.

Take Muse CEO Kathryn Minshew. By all accounts, she has her dream job—helping people find careers and companies they love and building a quickly growing startup. But rewind several years, and you’ll see that what propelled her to start The Muse was facing career confusion herself.

Her story is an inspiration to anyone who’s wondering, “What’s next?” If that’s you, spend your commute or lunch break tuning in to this 40-minute podcast (part of the “Best Part of My Job” podcast series). You’ll learn about her early career steps (and failures!), where her motivation comes from, and how you, too, can follow your dreams.